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acequeenking ([personal profile] acequeenking) wrote in [personal profile] maplemood 2019-04-22 03:03 am (UTC)

FRIEND SPIRAL! FRIEND SPIRAL! Let us go down this road together. This road way down unnnndderr the grooounnnndd

Your goals are the best goals. <3 I really admit how you write them being as gloriously messy and resentful and failing to communicate, but also trying, so hard, to communicate and to catch themselves in the bad patterns. You really write them absolutely perfect to canon; I could 100% see that as a sequel to the play.

Oh man, I think I messed up in my exuberance a bit — I've got Zag, but he's an adult for most of it and only a baby in flash-backs- and was a baby pre-canon, sadly. The other I've got with the furies as their children in a one-shotI REALLY LOVE BABYFIC FOR THESE TWO EVEN THOUGH IT WOULD BE SO HARD. I should have the one shot w/the furies babies up in that collection thursday and the other is...really long so hopefully I uh will finish that in a couple months. XD;

But IGNORING ALL THAT I really want to talk about how you feel his raising a son would change post-canon because I agree but I can't figure out, exactly, how it would. I feel like pre-canon Hades would get real hung up on the heir thing and have a lot more uh...toxic masculinity/greed in his lessons (show emotions p much never, son). I can also see him being real controlling, especially if the kid(s) stay with him. Which, I mean, he would be the more stable parent as far as staying in one place? But also wow imagine being a kid and literally never seeing the sun.

What I find fascinating about Hades in the musical is he is the one who succeeds at making an effort. He makes a sacrifice at the end to save his relationship with his wife and while canon leaves it open as to whether he succeeds at waiting, I think an attempt is surely made. He tries and that she leaves clutching his flower saying wait for me, I think, is a sign that those two are gonna eventually make it, if not be miraculously better right away; they both want to succeed and they're both vulnerable with one another in a way that the younger couple doesn't quite get.

I find the modern politicing frustrating too — not only because the song everyone points to was written ages ago (if, admittedly, it's still timely), but because I think Hades is more interesting if you take him not as a pale Trump stand-in, but as an examination of some pretty damn ancient ideas of kingship/leadership/marriage. Hades is old as literal dirt and he's got some old ass ideas of what makes a man and a leader. I'd rather see that explored tbh than WOW ITS A TRUMP CRITIQUE.

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